Discussion:
Slackware 15.0 data point
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Joe Rosevear
2022-03-19 20:06:58 UTC
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Hello, Slackers!

Just for fun, I made (several years ago) a graph using the Slackware
release history data I found on Wikipedia. And today I finally got
around to putting on it the new data point for Slackware 15.0. It fits
the curve perfectly!

-Joe
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Joe Rosevear
2022-03-20 03:34:44 UTC
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Post by Joe Rosevear
Hello, Slackers!
Just for fun, I made (several years ago) a graph using the Slackware
release history data I found on Wikipedia. And today I finally got
around to putting on it the new data point for Slackware 15.0. It fits
the curve perfectly!
-Joe
Here's the link:

https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/graph
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John Forkosh
2022-03-20 07:48:25 UTC
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Post by Joe Rosevear
Post by Joe Rosevear
Just for fun, I made (several years ago) a graph using the Slackware
release history data I found on Wikipedia. And today I finally got
around to putting on it the new data point for Slackware 15.0.
It fits the curve perfectly! -Joe
https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/graph
So when does 15.1 fall on that curve?
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Joe Rosevear
2022-03-20 10:25:59 UTC
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John Forkosh <***@panix.com> wrote:

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Post by John Forkosh
So when does 15.1 fall on that curve?
I get August, 24, 2039. Here is a link to an extrapolated curve:

https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/extrap
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Henrik Carlqvist
2022-03-20 12:14:55 UTC
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Post by Joe Rosevear
Just for fun, I made (several years ago) a graph using the Slackware
release history data I found on Wikipedia.
Nice graph! I really hope that 15.1 will come earlier than your estimate
as a smaller update than 15.0 which did contain some major changes.

Just a small hint for better image quality:

If you are putting your graph in a document like a .pdf-file, the graph
will be rendered with better resulution if you use some vector format
instead of a raster format.

So using gnuplot to save the graph as some vector format like .svg
or .eps and then convert it to .pdf will look slightly better, especially
if you are going to print the graph on paper.

Here is an URL describing how to use postscript to get a nice
vectorized .pdf from gnuplot:
https://staff.itee.uq.edu.au/ksb/howto/gnuplot-pdf-howto.html
However, at least on my Slackware 14.2 system, when setting terminal to
pdf in gnuplot I also get a vectorized plot which seems just as good.

The vectorized plots will not only look better, they will probably also
give smaller file sizes.

regards Henrik
Joe Rosevear
2022-03-21 09:50:22 UTC
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Post by Henrik Carlqvist
Post by Joe Rosevear
Just for fun, I made (several years ago) a graph using the Slackware
release history data I found on Wikipedia.
Nice graph! I really hope that 15.1 will come earlier than your estimate
as a smaller update than 15.0 which did contain some major changes.
If you are putting your graph in a document like a .pdf-file, the graph
will be rendered with better resulution if you use some vector format
instead of a raster format.
So using gnuplot to save the graph as some vector format like .svg
or .eps and then convert it to .pdf will look slightly better, especially
if you are going to print the graph on paper.
Here is an URL describing how to use postscript to get a nice
https://staff.itee.uq.edu.au/ksb/howto/gnuplot-pdf-howto.html
However, at least on my Slackware 14.2 system, when setting terminal to
pdf in gnuplot I also get a vectorized plot which seems just as good.
The vectorized plots will not only look better, they will probably also
give smaller file sizes.
regards Henrik
Thank you Henrik!

I skipped the .pdf files altogether as that saved me a step, but you
are correct. A pdf made (with the convert commnand) from a vector
image looks better. It seems the .eps files were not vector images?
I'll file that tip where I can find it again.

Also I did not know how to use "set terminal svg" until your prompting
lead me to do a little searching. Thanks.

I updated my webpages to use the.svg files:

https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/graph
https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/extrap

The University of Queensland link looks interesting. Thank you.

-Joe
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Henrik Carlqvist
2022-03-22 06:59:17 UTC
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Post by Joe Rosevear
It seems the .eps files were not vector images?
.eps can contain vector images and at least on my Slackware 14.2 system
they will when generated from gnuplot. However, those generated .eps
files also contain a rastered preview image (if I remember right that
embedded preview image is in a .tiff format).

So when looking at an .eps graph generated with gnuplot using gv the
graph will look vectorized, but looking at the same file with xv the
graph will look rasterized.
Post by Joe Rosevear
https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/graph
https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/extrap
Nice! I wasn't even aware that it was possible to use .svg files in img
tags.

regards Henrik
Joe Rosevear
2022-03-22 23:12:34 UTC
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Post by Henrik Carlqvist
Post by Joe Rosevear
It seems the .eps files were not vector images?
.eps can contain vector images and at least on my Slackware 14.2 system
they will when generated from gnuplot. However, those generated .eps
files also contain a rastered preview image (if I remember right that
embedded preview image is in a .tiff format).
So when looking at an .eps graph generated with gnuplot using gv the
graph will look vectorized, but looking at the same file with xv the
graph will look rasterized.
I confirmed what you said by searching on line and by viewing the .eps
file in gv and xv. I also played with epstopdf and pdfcrop (which were
suggested in the University of Queensland link). I have to say that
the complexity of gnuplot makes experimentation difficult.
Post by Henrik Carlqvist
Post by Joe Rosevear
https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/graph
https://joeslife.org/projects/slack_stuff/extrap
Nice! I wasn't even aware that it was possible to use .svg files in img
tags.
Yes, I got lucky. Not only does the output look good and work in html,
but the gnuplot instruction file was simple. It was your prompting
that helped me to find this. Again, thanks!

-Joe
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Joe Rosevear
2022-03-22 23:48:01 UTC
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Post by Henrik Carlqvist
Post by Joe Rosevear
Just for fun, I made (several years ago) a graph using the Slackware
release history data I found on Wikipedia.
Nice graph! I really hope that 15.1 will come earlier than your estimate
as a smaller update than 15.0 which did contain some major changes.
I hope so also. I tried to make a fair prediction based on what looked
like a reasonable extrapolation of the curve--all bias aside.
Post by Henrik Carlqvist
If you are putting your graph in a document like a .pdf-file, the graph
will be rendered with better resulution if you use some vector format
instead of a raster format.
So using gnuplot to save the graph as some vector format like .svg
or .eps and then convert it to .pdf will look slightly better, especially
if you are going to print the graph on paper.
Here is an URL describing how to use postscript to get a nice
https://staff.itee.uq.edu.au/ksb/howto/gnuplot-pdf-howto.html
Thanks for the link. I put it and some other links about gnuplot in
this page of links (the sections are alphabetized--gnuplot is half way
down):

https://joeslife.org/links/computing

-Joe
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