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Can Webmin create public/private keys or I need use terminal?
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nw
2023-01-21 01:25:18 UTC
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Can Webmin create public/private keys or I need use terminal?

Thanks.
David Robley
2023-01-21 03:14:52 UTC
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Post by nw
Can Webmin create public/private keys or I need use terminal?
Thanks.
Is the Webmin documentation http://doxfer.webmin.com/Webmin/SSH_Server
of any assistance?
greymaus
2023-01-21 08:50:25 UTC
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Post by nw
Can Webmin create public/private keys or I need use terminal?
Thanks.
what is Winmin? Use the terminal, it is a sturdier system, and easier to
manage.
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Rich
2023-01-21 15:38:56 UTC
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Post by greymaus
Post by nw
Can Webmin create public/private keys or I need use terminal?
Thanks.
what is Winmin?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webmin

"Webmin is a powerful and flexible web-based server management
control panel for Unix-like systems. Webmin allows the user to
configure operating system internals, such as users, disk quotas,
services or configuration files, as well as modify and control
open-source apps, such as BIND, Apache HTTP Server, PHP or MySQL."

I.e., a crutch for those who don't know what they are doing.
Post by greymaus
Use the terminal, it is a sturdier system, and easier to manage.
Indeed, yes. And given that they posted in a Slackware group, this is
what they *should* be doing anyway.
Henrik Carlqvist
2023-01-22 10:21:48 UTC
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Post by Rich
"Webmin is a powerful and flexible web-based server management
control panel for Unix-like systems. Webmin allows the user to
configure operating system internals, such as users, disk quotas,
services or configuration files, as well as modify and control
open-source apps, such as BIND, Apache HTTP Server, PHP or MySQL."
I.e., a crutch for those who don't know what they are doing.
Post by greymaus
Use the terminal, it is a sturdier system, and easier to manage.
Indeed, yes. And given that they posted in a Slackware group, this is
what they *should* be doing anyway.
It depends...

Yes, if you are a Slackware user, using your computer as a personal
computer as you want to learn Unix, you should learn how to manage your
computer from the terminal.

Yes, if you are a system administrator, providing Slackware on servers
and workstations used by multiple users, you should know how to manage
all those machines from the command line. This includes stuff like
building and deploying custom packages with software and settings and
connecting those machines in a network with common view of users and some
disks.

But no, if you are using Slackware as a base to build a more or less
embedded product serving some kind of specific purpose like a LAMP-server
or DNS-server for users and administrators in a network not willing or
capable of learning Unix, webmin might be a good choice to manage that
product.

regards Henrik
greymaus
2023-01-22 10:40:21 UTC
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Post by Henrik Carlqvist
Post by Rich
"Webmin is a powerful and flexible web-based server management
control panel for Unix-like systems. Webmin allows the user to
configure operating system internals, such as users, disk quotas,
services or configuration files, as well as modify and control
open-source apps, such as BIND, Apache HTTP Server, PHP or MySQL."
I.e., a crutch for those who don't know what they are doing.
Post by greymaus
Use the terminal, it is a sturdier system, and easier to manage.
Indeed, yes. And given that they posted in a Slackware group, this is
what they *should* be doing anyway.
It depends...
Yes, if you are a Slackware user, using your computer as a personal
computer as you want to learn Unix, you should learn how to manage your
computer from the terminal.
Yes, if you are a system administrator, providing Slackware on servers
and workstations used by multiple users, you should know how to manage
all those machines from the command line. This includes stuff like
building and deploying custom packages with software and settings and
connecting those machines in a network with common view of users and some
disks.
But no, if you are using Slackware as a base to build a more or less
embedded product serving some kind of specific purpose like a LAMP-server
or DNS-server for users and administrators in a network not willing or
capable of learning Unix, webmin might be a good choice to manage that
product.
regards Henrik
It seems to me that you would be happier with Windows
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Henrik Carlqvist
2023-01-22 16:19:51 UTC
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Post by greymaus
Post by Henrik Carlqvist
But no, if you are using Slackware as a base to build a more or less
embedded product serving some kind of specific purpose like a
LAMP-server or DNS-server for users and administrators in a network not
willing or capable of learning Unix, webmin might be a good choice to
manage that product.
regards Henrik
It seems to me that you would be happier with Windows
No, I would say that Linux is a better choice for embedded systems, for
example a raspberry pi running without any monitor or keyboard connected
and only network interfaces left to manage the device.

Consider such a thing as a smart network switch or a router. On such a
device you will be able to configure things like IP address, time
servers, DNS servers and possibly also local user accounts or connection
to network catalog service like ldap or radius. These things do not have
any ports to connect monitor or keyboard, but mostly they are possible to
configure using a web interface. Sometimes they are possible to configure
using a command line interface very different from a typical linux bash
environment, that command line interface is then usually accessed using a
serial port or possibly ssh.

Do you know of any such a device (network switch or router) that is
powered by Windows? I can point you to a number of such products running
Linux out of the box and third party Linux distributions intended to
replace the firmware of such products.

regards Henrik
greymaus
2023-01-22 17:51:27 UTC
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Post by greymaus
Post by Henrik Carlqvist
But no, if you are using Slackware as a base to build a more or less
embedded product serving some kind of specific purpose like a
LAMP-server or DNS-server for users and administrators in a network not
willing or capable of learning Unix, webmin might be a good choice to
manage that product.
regards Henrik
It seems to me that you would be happier with Windows
No, I would say that Linux is a better choice for embedded systems, for
example a raspberry pi running without any monitor or keyboard connected
and only network interfaces left to manage the device.
Consider such a thing as a smart network switch or a router. On such a
device you will be able to configure things like IP address, time
servers, DNS servers and possibly also local user accounts or connection
to network catalog service like ldap or radius. These things do not have
any ports to connect monitor or keyboard, but mostly they are possible to
configure using a web interface. Sometimes they are possible to configure
using a command line interface very different from a typical linux bash
environment, that command line interface is then usually accessed using a
serial port or possibly ssh.
Do you know of any such a device (network switch or router) that is
powered by Windows? I can point you to a number of such products running
Linux out of the box and third party Linux distributions intended to
replace the firmware of such products.
regards Henrik
I know all that, but I think that most newbies, used to Windows, need to
do a lot of reading before using Linux, it is like driving a Ferrari
after driving a Nissan Micro.
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Henrik Carlqvist
2023-01-23 06:42:01 UTC
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Post by greymaus
I know all that, but I think that most newbies, used to Windows, need to
do a lot of reading before using Linux, it is like driving a Ferrari
after driving a Nissan Micro.
Yes, that is true. That is exactly why many Linux devices like Android
phones or network equipment come with easy to use interfaces. Most
Android users never care to install any terminal program giving them
access to a bash prompt.

regards Henrik

Alexander Grotewohl
2023-01-22 18:05:02 UTC
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Post by greymaus
Post by Henrik Carlqvist
Post by Rich
"Webmin is a powerful and flexible web-based server management
control panel for Unix-like systems. Webmin allows the user to
configure operating system internals, such as users, disk quotas,
services or configuration files, as well as modify and control
open-source apps, such as BIND, Apache HTTP Server, PHP or MySQL."
I.e., a crutch for those who don't know what they are doing.
Post by greymaus
Use the terminal, it is a sturdier system, and easier to manage.
Indeed, yes. And given that they posted in a Slackware group, this is
what they *should* be doing anyway.
It depends...
Yes, if you are a Slackware user, using your computer as a personal
computer as you want to learn Unix, you should learn how to manage your
computer from the terminal.
Yes, if you are a system administrator, providing Slackware on servers
and workstations used by multiple users, you should know how to manage
all those machines from the command line. This includes stuff like
building and deploying custom packages with software and settings and
connecting those machines in a network with common view of users and
some disks.
But no, if you are using Slackware as a base to build a more or less
embedded product serving some kind of specific purpose like a
LAMP-server or DNS-server for users and administrators in a network not
willing or capable of learning Unix, webmin might be a good choice to
manage that product.
regards Henrik
It seems to me that you would be happier with Windows
Why are you virtue signaling? Perhaps you would be happier on Reddit
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